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what can we expect from the next Kekal album after Autonomy? anything heavier, faster or more metal?

Jeff: Heavier for sure, faster probably, more metal I don't know - I have no idea what's more metal & what's less.. But since last year, the mood is on me again to do some more brutal & faster stuff.. The biggest influence was the Indonesian action movie The Raid (or The Raid: Redemption), have you seen that? It was awesome.. The movie had inspired me to do some brutal stuff again.. Let's see how it goes..! Oh one more thing: I put "Beyond The Glimpse of Dreams" as a reference album, for the diversity of atmosphere and heaviness..

Where can I find official Autonomy lyrics? - Great album.

Jeff: We decided not to publish the lyrics for "Autonomy", the main reason was because we have those great photography works from Levi, that were printed on CD booklet, which work as the 'lyrics' to the songs.. These pictures have a much deeper meaning and have 'more to say' than the lyrics.. so we encourage listeners to look at the pictures and reflect during listening the tracks.. I haven't got a chance to publish these photos digitally & put them on the website, but I plan to - for all of you who got the digital version (thanks for reminding me of this actually - I keep forgetting!).. But we won't publish the lyrics for this album..

Have you ever get bored making music for Kekal for almost 20 years now?

No.. Never.. But if Kekal was under pressure to make the same thing over and over again, yes I would probably get bored after 2 albums.. But here because I'm free to make any song for Kekal as long as it's honest or true to what I feel, 20 years doesn't feel long at all..

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What do you think about Dubstep music?

Jeff: To be honest, I wasn't aware of the whole dubstep hype thing until about year 2010, after I finished working the material for "8" album.. I personally dig dub music, you know what I mean, the music built after reggae as the main roots.. As far as dubstep is concerned, it has progressed, or strayed far beyond dub and 2-step music as it was originally came from.. It's the same to me as what nu-metal or metalcore does to heavy metal.. It doesn't feel rooted enough, thus it doesn't feel strong enough.. I wrote the song "Tabula Rasa" with the classic dub/reggae kind of groove in the beginning, and it can be easily converted into dubstep with adding the typical dubstep beat, wobbled bass and some breaks and chops, as I actually did that on the alternate remix version.. but then again, what's the point if it's just to show you the same beat and the same kind of wobbled bass, just to make it a legit dubstep..? At the end of the day, all the things you do is just music.. And most importantly if you know what's your main roots, and then explore or develop your own style, you'll do good, no need to follow the hype..

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Why Kekal is underrated? What do you think about that?

Jeff: Good question! Thanks for asking that.. Well, I don't see Kekal as underrated.. I think 'under-appreciated' is a more suitable term, and the other related term is probably 'over-looked'.. There are multiple factors that made Kekal to become less known than your average band.. I can give you three right now.. First, it's because the kind of music we do, that most would see it as 'weird' or 'too-much'.. I mean take this for example, a Canadian band Voivod - they could have been as big as Slayer, they were already in the scene since around the same time Metallica and Slayer started, but they never got popular enough to reach the mainstream status and selling millions of records, even though Jason Newsted from Metallica's fame stepped in later on, they couldn't get a commercial success from that.. They are many bands like that in this world..
The 2nd factor is because Kekal has always been a DIY (do-it-yourself) band since the beginning.. Even though we have albums released by record labels, they don't give us the band contract - we don't want to, and they don't own our recording masters.. What we do is just through licensing, and the license is usually valid for only about 4 or 5 years per album.. Labels won't spend too much to promote Kekal like when they promote a band signed to them for 2 or 3 albums, for sure.. That's the main difference..
Third factor, we don't tour.. We did a little in the past, but now we don't play any concert at all.. Lots of people who would probably like the music of Kekal may get Kekal outside of their radar because many people would discover a band through live concerts.. I still get messages like "how come only recently I discovered Kekal right now, after they released 8 or 9 albums?"

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What are your future plans?

There are no future plans other than recording music - and if we have enough good songs recorded for an album then the album will be released. Although there's no target, 2015 will be a monumental time to release a new album because Kekal will be 20 years old as a band by then, and it will be 10th album as well. The recording has started since September last year, but so far only about 40 - 50% done.

Do you still enjoy listening to any extreme metal bands that influenced your first few albums?

Jeff: Actually yes, although not as often as I used to in the past.. It depends on the mood right now.. Just recently I listen quite a bit of Napalm Death's 2012 album "Utilitarian", that's an excellent album, and very brutal.. I'm looking forward to hear the new Carcass album once it's released.. I've enjoyed the new Trouble album as well.. Our early influences were mostly 80's bands, so only those bands that I still listen right now.. I don't listen to newer extreme metal bands that much nowadays.. Lady Gaga is probably the newest artist I enjoy listening to, I'm not kidding.. She likes the same album that I like when I grew up listening to metal..
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What's Kekal's current lineup?

Since August 2009 Kekal has no official member, so there's zero line-up. But 3 former 'key' members still contribute in making albums and EPs. Jeff and Leo do the music and recording, Levi does illustration artwork & photography.

Why your albums are for free?

Back in the day, before the digital download thing came about, we needed physical media to store the music, so we released CDs and cassette tapes, and that requires money to manufacture and print.. also we need distributors and mail-order merchants.. CDs and tapes are sold basically to cover expenses.. Right now things have moved to digital downloads, so for digital downloads we actually prefer to give away some of our important albums for free (well, not all albums, because we still need to pay for the bandwidth/data-traffic).. This is good for a do-it-yourself independent band like Kekal, because we get almost no promotional support for the albums, so giving away some of the albums for free can be considered as a way to promote music, but direct to potential listeners.. I mean you don't need to read reviews from media to consider if you want to buy the album or not, just download it for free and listen to it, and if you like it, maybe you'll be interested to buy the CD version too.. if not, you won't lose any money from the free download, just delete the files or send them to your friend.. pretty convenient..

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Do you still like the music that you did in albums like "Beyond the Glimpse of Dreams" and "Embrace the Dead"?

Hi I'm Jeff.. Well, I have lost interest in 'black metal' kind of music for years now, so I don't dig much of that music anymore, but some of the elements are still relevant to what I do today.. I actually love all the melodies and progressions on those albums, and some riffs are cool too.. I still think tremolo picking is a great element for Kekal, that's why we put some in "Autonomy".. but we've changed the way we write music now, because we switched from analog recording to digital ever since "The Painful Experience", and there will be no going back, also we no longer do the jam-sessions together when writing music, so we can't really 'recreate' the vibe we did on those 2 albums, as those were written mostly through jamming..

Any recommended Kekal album to start with?

Both "1000 Thoughts of Violence" (2003) and "The Habit of Fire" (2007) will serve you well for introduction to the music of Kekal. If you are a metal guitarist, you may dig "Acidity" (2005). Good news is, all three albums above can be downloaded for FREE at http://www.kekal.org/download

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